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163: Ben Powell/Breaking The Fourth Wall

Ben Powell, photographed by Owen Tozer, September 2021.

I first asked Ben Powell to be a guest on the show back in 2017. In the end, it has taken almost five years of chipping away to get him to agree, and this week’s sprawling conversation is the result.

Why was I so bloody-minded about getting Ben on the show? Because I challenge you to find anybody who has made a bigger impact on skate culture in this country over the last 30 years.

Photo: Owen

Sure, Ben will cringe to his very fingertips at this highfalutin description. But it’s true. As part of the team behind Sidewalk, the much-loved successor to Read and Destroy magazine, Ben has spent literally decades championing every aspect of UK skateboarding with wit, integrity, irreverence and, when required, the utmost seriousness. If it happened, he definitely wrote about it – and probably filmed it, too.

Photo: Owen

So yep, I’m happy I broke down his resistance. And in the end, this lengthy, digressive chat was also partially about that. Like all British northern men of a certain vintage, Ben is immune to bullshit and almost pathologically modest about his contribution, so my job in this case was to try to dismantle these self-deprecatory defences to find out just what motivated this legend to devote his life to the stories and culture of skateboarding.

As you’ll gather, Ben is opinionated, erudite, passionate, a total skate geek and properly funny. Yep, I enjoyed this one. Hope you do too.

Listen to the episode here:

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Show Notes

  • Booze free booze choices
  • Five years of hassle
  • Looking Sideways Vol. 1 
  • The culture of magazines
  • The Olympics 
  • James Hope-Gill Controversy 
  • Leaving Sidewalk
  • The pressures of social media
  • The print renaissance
  • Preserving the past “…skateboarding is based on stories..”
  • Being made redundant
  • Teaching 
  • “.. rich in life not in funds..” 
  • The end of Sidewalk 
  • Having purpose
  • When modesty becomes as annoying as vanity
  • Self worth and projects of value 
  • Imposter syndrome 
  • Breaking into the skate industry 
  • Steve Kane’s Interview 
  • The Great Lost Project / Neil Macdonald 
  • How Ben got into it.
  • The point of Haunts 
  • The narrative of skateboard history 
  • Jimmy Boyes 
  • Wakey war stories 
  • The Jagger Brothers
  • Cancelled 
  • The Mike Vallely Story 
  • ‘Spitgate’ 
  • The boom 
  • A national perspective 
  • Work during Covid 
  • Ben’s favourite skateboarders 
  • Playing on a transcendent level 
  • The need to keep on telling stories 

Names Mentioned

  • Ross Kemp
  • Brass Eye 
  • Forder
  • Mark Banes 
  • Andy Horsley 
  • Neil Macdonald 
  • George Michael 
  • Ali Boulala
  • Jim Peskett
  • Sky Brown 
  • Vincent Milou 
  • Ed Leigh 
  • Chris Moran 
  • Marc Churchill
  • Graham Bell 
  • Todd Richards 
  • James Hope Gill 
  • Ryan Gray  
  • Percy Dean
  • Sam Document 
  • Joel Curtis 
  • Michelle 
  • Marcel Proust  
  • Marshall Taylor 
  • Jake Sawyer  
  • Paul ‘Harry’ Harrison 
  • Alex Mole 
  • Neil Blender 
  • Doug Brown 
  • Kev Parrot 
  • Leo Sharp
  • Nial Neeson 
  • Neil Chester 
  • Matthew ‘Wig’ Worland
  • Ewan Wallace
  • Tudor ‘Chod’ Thomas 
  • Sam Powell 
  • James Kitchen 
  • Donovan Penance 
  • Gino Iannucci
  • Kareem Campbell
  • Lorne Edwards 
  • Steve Kane 
  • Dan Addams
  • Carl Shipman 
  • Chris Forder 
  • John Robson 
  • Harry 
  • Paul ‘Man’ Sylvester 
  • Tony Alva 
  • Jimmy Boyes 
  • Jagger Brothers 
  • Mark Baines 
  • Lee Russey 
  • Dean Jagger 
  • Steve Jagger 
  • Laura Thornhill 
  • Cara-Beth Burnside 
  • Jamie Reed 
  • Mike Vallely 
  • Guy Mariano 
  • The Inch Brothers 
  • Tony Hawk 
  • Tom Penny 
  • Dylan Reeder 
  • Danielle Gallacher 
  • Kirsty Tonner  
  • Rayssa Leal 
  • Leticia Buffoni
  • Wayne Miller
  • Jeff Grosso 
  • Daley Thompson 
  • Jeremy Raye 
  • Harry Bastard (Alan Cuthbertson) 
  • Mike Wright 
  • Sean Smith 
  • Lois Pendlebury 
  • Alan Scott 
  • Andy Scott
  • Ryan Grow 
  • Neil Blender 
  • Chewy Cannon 

Places Mentioned

  • Leeds 
  • Bristol 
  • Abingdon Road 
  • Oxford
  • America 
  • Japan 
  • Europe 
  • Melbourne 
  • Nottingham 
  • Wakefield 
  • Portland Bill 
  • Weymouth 
  • Portland 
  • Manchester 
  • Doncaster 
  • California 
  • Tottenham 
  • Durham 
  • Plymouth 
  • Harrow 
  • Romford 
  • Stevenage 
  • Liverpool 
  • Shrewsbury
  • Sheffield 
  • Milton Keynes 
  • Bolton 

Companies, Organisations and Brands Mentioned

  • Northern Monk 
  • Erdinger 
  • Guinness 
  • I’m Alan Partridge 
  • Permanent 
  • Whitelines 
  • Sidewalk 
  • The Daily Star 
  • The Olympics 
  • International Olympic Committee 
  • NBC
  • International Snowboard Federation 
  • CBeebies 
  • Board of Southsea 
  • Instagram 
  • Facebook 
  • Factory Skateboards 
  • Skateboarders Companion 
  • Escape Creative Podcast 
  • Slam City Skateboards 
  • Black Sheep 
  • Free 
  • Vague 
  • Skateboard England 
  • Thrasher 
  • Aldi
  • RAD
  • System 
  • Rollersnakes 
  • Harrods 
  • TLB
  • RadLands
  • Sad Plant 
  • Gril Skate UK 
  • Sad Lands 
  • Division 24 
  • Vertex Plastering 

Films, Music & Books Mentioned

  • Ten Arguments for Deleting Your Social Media Accounts Right Now by Jaron Lanier 
  • Back to the Future , directed by Robert Zemeckis 
  • Police Academy 4, directed by Jim Drake